Use Astrology For Better Relationships with Elliott Lea

Astrologer, trained therapist and relationship expert, Elliott Lea, shares how she manifested getting booked on TV, attracting 7 and 8-figure clients and living creatively free as her fully-expressed and confident Leo self! 

Relationships are at the heart of EVERYTHING, but particularly business and money.

Understanding how people communicate differently is such a superpower when you want to reach more people with your work, attract more aligned clients and make a deeper impact in your client relationships.

Listen to this super juicy interview with astrologer Elliott Lea as she tells us:

✨Understanding the mercury placements in our charts gives us deep inight into how we communicate differently

✨How different signs process information differently and how you can leverage this knowledge in your content and communication

✨How understanding the nuances of your partner's mercury placement can diffuse tension patterns

✨How understanding your venus placement increases your magnetism and manifestation power

✨How even wearing different colors can affect your magnetism!

✨How to turn on and turn up your feminine magic for more money flow, creativity and ease. 

You'll love this fun, insightful deep dive into how to leverage our astrology for more ease, aligment and flow in business and life. 

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Chapters

• 0:12 Astrology & Business Transformation
• 7:06 Empowerment Through Astrology in Business
• 15:02 Astrology in Communication and Relationships
• 20:44 Astrology in Business Evolution
• 31:06 Astrology Empowers Relationships and Communication
• 35:48 Astrology and Business Expansion

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:12

What's up, this is Sarah Mack, and welcome to Creative Magic Club. Together, we'll discover inspirational stories of creative entrepreneurs living out their dreams, doing the work they are most passionate about and building wealth in magical and fun ways, while building a six-figure income. As a writer and coach, helping other women to launch their dream businesses, I've connected with so many incredible people and seen it proven again and again that you can thrive financially doing whatever it is you are passionate about. I am here to share life-changing strategies for mindset, making money and reaching more people with your work in a business and life filled with creativity, freedom and fun. Hi, everyone, welcome. I'm so excited I have a very special guest to introduce you to. Today. We have with us Elliot Lee, who is a licensed therapist and professional astrologer. She is dedicated to empowering entrepreneurs, businesses, teams, high achievers, couples and everyone in between to harness astrology as a fast track to personal liberation, exceptional success and financial abundance.

Speaker 2: 1:21

Hi Elliot, Hi Sarah, Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1: 1:27

So Elliot is one of my IRL friends now that I live in California.

Speaker 2: 1:32

We love it. We love it.

Speaker 1: 1:34

Yeah, we went for a classic let's go for tea and ended up having like a four hour Five yeah, five hours later. Business and astrology. She's an absolute wealth of knowledge, so I can't wait to for you to get to know her and introduce you to her amazing work. So, before we dive in, how did you get into being an astrologer and doing the work that you do today?

Speaker 2: 1:57

I love this question because I think it's so fascinating as things that we become passionate about and then end up teaching like it found me right. It found me in the middle of a dark night of a soul. I was literally. I'm a, as you said, I'm a licensed therapist. So I was a clinical social worker for a decade before leaving and becoming a coach and an astrologer. And I was in this middle of a breakup and at this time in my career where I was like who the fuck am I? What do I want? And I remember like being in my boss's office even, and being like I don't even think I want to be a social worker anymore. Like who am I? It was an existential crisis. It was amazing.

Speaker 2: 2:34

Astrology found me during that time. A coworker was like hey, have you ever had your birth chart read? And I was like what the fuck is that? But tell. And it read me to the point of like you know, obviously I do clinical. I was doing clinical work with clients.

Speaker 2: 2:49

I have had my own therapy, I had been in therapy yeah, I'd been in therapy myself and but like to have something so abstract fucking read my soul and know things about me that like just intuitively, like I had never been able to articulate. I was like sold, and so my first introduction was like fucking cafe astrology, like entering, you know, your free birth chart stuff online. And I dove into a rabbit hole because it gave me permission to be me when I was struggling to know who I was, and it really gave me the insights and the purpose and, honestly, if you've ever been through a dark night of the soul, which many of us have, it's painful and it's like a questioning of everything and it gave me this sense of who I was and who I was meant to be. And it helped me see my power again when I didn't feel powerful. And so I was hooked, fucking hooked. I literally bought every astrology book I could think of. I toted them around with me at work.

Speaker 2: 3:56

So my peers in the meantime, my colleagues, I was like reading their charts and I was like I just wanted everyone to feel a scene and validated as I did, and I was hooked from then, and so I was the annoying person that did not shut up about it. I was like asked my husband when I met him, I asked him. I was like that classic girl that asked him for his birth chart within five minutes of meeting him and I, he loves it, he loved it, he loved it and he knew his birth time too, but he loved it and it's a language that we use in our relationship. I just found that astrology has been something that not only doesn't enhance my personal understanding, which I'm so excited to help and support people on their personal development journey, to help them see who they are, to help them work out some of those kinks and misunderstandings that we picked up along the way and it's such a tool for business, it's such a tool for relationships, it's such a tool for not just understanding yourself, but then somebody else, because it gives you information from an objective perspective instead of like you know, know, we're all wrapped up in our shit and we're all human, so we're all projecting things onto other people and taking it personal, and astrology really gives us perspective.

Speaker 2: 5:14

So, um, long story short, it found me, and it found me at the perfect time, as always. And you know, six, seven years later, here I am, and it's been, it's what I do now, like I don't even coach anymore. I'm, and it's been, it's what I do now, like I don't even coach anymore. I'm like it's so funny how life takes you on this path and you know I was recently on TV on a reality show as a guest astrology expert. So life just really puts opportunities in front of you when you're on purpose, and astrology has been something that, like, I couldn't get rid of, even if I tried.

Speaker 1: 5:45

I love it. Yes, I super resonate with the astrology rabbit hole.

Speaker 2: 5:48

I feel like it gets you and it just like drags you in deeper and I'm a Scorpio moon, so I like, uh, when I'm hooked, I go deep and it's like I hang on and I keep digging and I go deeper and I go and it's like it's it's obsessive, like it's a Scorpio tendency, it's like we get obsessive about it and it's just I love it and it's it's consuming and it's amazing and I knew it. I knew, I literally knew it wasn't going anywhere when I couldn't go to sleep or I would dream about and I would wake up thinking about people's charts and the way it all made sense and I was like analyzing and synthesizing information, like people that like don't even give a fuck. That I was like in their charter, like you know, past clients or my relationship or whatever, when I was like, oh my god, this isn't turning off I'm. I was like, basically, what I realized now, looking back, I was like downloading information.

Speaker 2: 6:39

It was just like download it, download it, download it. But it was so much that I was like, of course, it was like during eclipse season in my 10th house for the people listening who know about eclipses, but it was pushing me deep into like owning that I'm a professional astrologer versus just being like, yeah, I coach and astrology is a tool that I use with my coaching. It deeply pushed me out of my career comfort zone into something brand new but all perfect timing career comfort zone into something brand new, but all perfect timing.

Speaker 1: 7:04

I love that. I'm curious what in your chart kind of gives the clues of your astrology vocation?

Speaker 2: 7:21

Yeah, I mean we can look at it from a few different perspectives. So Uranus is the planet of rebellion and uniqueness and technology and sciences and doing all things differently. And I have Uranus trining my ascendant, which gives me this like person who is perceived as somebody like it's not surprising to my family or friends that like I'm into astrology or that like I just do things differently, I'm not like totally out of the box because I'm still very Leo. So I'm still like I want to fit in and my Uranus it really does bring me this sense of like this little extra spiciness where it wants me to kind of hang out in an area that is maybe less explored and it wants me to kind of dive deeper or bring more information into to others personally, because it's because it's training my ascendant, so it's very personal and I'm a Leo. So it is very like I don't do well like macro astrology because Leo is such a personal sign. So I love touching, I love like affecting people personally. So I love one-to-ones, like I love, and I, you know, I I obviously have courses where I um, uh, you know people can learn about different placements or different signs through those courses, but I like knowing the actual touch that I'm having. I'm also like a mercury and cancer. So I'm like I want to hold you, I want to support you through this, I want to like, witness, the witness, the transformation.

Speaker 2: 8:50

But I also have two things.

Speaker 2: 8:54

I have my North node in Aries, in the ninth house, which is a can be the house of astrology too, because it's all about higher education, philosophy, religion, science or not science, but spirituality, all the things that can bring in different, whatever our religion is, and astrology happens to be one of mine. So I have my North node, so I've definitely meant to be coming into that in this lifetime. And then I have Jupiter, which is the planet of expansion and growth and opportunity and luck and abundance, at 29 degrees in Aries, in my ninth house. So this is something I've deeply mastered and I'm coming here to complete in this lifetime and to teach and to share through my own embodied experience of it, less about textbook information and more about here's how I use the language of it. So, um, those are just like a few pieces that kind of jump out to me when you ask that question. But I hope people are tracking that because it we went a little deep on astrology, but yeah, interesting, I also have my north node in the ninth house.

Speaker 2: 9:59

So in in Gemini, right, because your 10,000th is Cancer.

Speaker 1: 10:03

It's in Torah, oh well, I use Placidus, yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:09

If it's whole sign, then yeah, no, yeah, my north node would be in the eighth house then when I use Placidus, my north node moves to the eighth house too everything shifts on my chart when I use Placidus, which is why, um, when I found whole sign, I was like this resonates more with me yeah, that's the same for me and Placidus yeah yeah, walk with me.

Speaker 1: 10:28

Okay, tell me about how so obviously you was you found astrology. Then you started shifting into that in your business. How has astrology and your chart kind of empowered you and helped you in business?

Speaker 2: 10:46

oh, I mean, god, where do I start? I have always been someone, through my upbringing and, I think, just through. I'm from the Midwest and when I moved to California it was like a fucking game changer for me at 28, of course, during my Saturn return. Um, I wasn't somebody who grew up around like a ton of like confidence. I was always the how do I want to say this? I was always kind of like the loud one and the one that like was always kind of giving advice and the one that was always like people would come to for things and I was, like, felt like I was a lot. I was. My Scorpio moon makes me a little intense, right, it makes me, it makes me deep and it gives me a lot of depth.

Speaker 2: 11:30

And I found that I didn't really fit in. Where I came from. There wasn't a lot of people I could connect to or relate to or who could, I felt, relate to me. So I say that because astrology really empowered me to own I mean I have fucking three planets in Leo in my first house with my ascendant, like I'm very Leo and I was not owning those traits whatsoever because I felt like every time I stepped out into my Leo-ness, that Leo spotlight, that Leo center stage.

Speaker 2: 12:02

I was met with some sort of resistance or some sort of pushback or some sort of like what are you doing here? You know, like, why are you being so loud? Like why, why are, why are you proclaiming this and it? I was constantly battling this, this resistance, if you will, this fear and you know that's in my chart too Like all of my Leo happens to square my Pluto and or my moon and Scorpio. So, like that, I have this push, pull energy in my chart, no matter what that kind of indicates. Like that I'm here to really learn and work with this desire to be seen in, this desire to hide honestly and astrology helped me understand that to the point in business where I was like, oh, and this is how I teach astrology, I have a membership. Actually, that's entirely around, like this philosophy for me, where I'm like we have a chart, yes, we have planets, we have signs, we have aspects. We can go deep in it. Sure, and it's not totally necessary to go super deep when we understand that there are parts of our chart that are overactive and there are parts of our chart that are fucking underactive.

Speaker 2: 13:07

And I was in my Pluto very, very deep and not owning my Leo at all. I was in my Scorpio, I was not in my Leo and I found that when I almost like, placed my attention and set an intention that this is what I want to embody, this energy, this clarity, this, you know, and for Leo, this courage, this fierceness, this boldness, this nobility, this regalness that I was like, oh, it did something, it activated me in some way and so for me, in business, it really created this goodness, almost like this map, this model for me, where I could find the pieces of my chart that I was like in business. Okay, if I want to activate my courage or take action, okay, I'm obviously going to go look at my Mars and I'm probably going to filter in my Jupiter too, because that's what expands my capacity for more and that happens to be an Aries, which is a pretty strong placement. So I'm looking at fire, I'm looking at ways in which I can get out of my own fucking comfort zone, because I can hang out in my comfort zone very easily with my moon in the fourth house, my mercury in cancer, she can hide really easily and when I'm not making progress in business or when I want to move forward in business.

Speaker 2: 14:26

In some way I'm looking to activate different parts of me and you can do that in relationships, you can do that in business. You can do that in different ways and I think that, myself included, we can really overcomplicate our charts and we can get in the nitty gritty details, but I'm so inspired by being able to look at our chart and be like, oh, if I can just turn on that energy. It's like press a button. If I can just like turn on that energy, then I'm in, it's innate for me, it's my energy. It's not something I have to fake, but I've been underusing it because I've been compensating for it another way or I've been afraid of it.

Speaker 2: 15:02

Right that I can turn on that part of me and really access that and it brings. It brings me more clarity, brings me more purpose and and and honestly, more passion to, to my life and to what I'm doing. And you know we were talking before we press recorded even about like relationships and like I have sun conjunct Venus, like relationships are such a huge theme for me. My Venus squares Pluto, like I am here to fucking transform through relationships. I have so much relationship, karma, my North node, the place of destiny and where we're moving to in this lifetime trines, my Venus, like there's so many themes about like balance and harmony and relationship and navigating the nuances of like, finding like all sides to things is really really important for me and my life's work and me as an individual.

Speaker 2: 15:52

So I like helping people kind of find that balance within themselves too of like I get it, you're, you're like even your Gemini moon, right, like you know, when you're in your Gemini moon, like it's such a clear placement when you're like and it can be exhausting. It can be so exhausting when it doesn't feel like it has a clarity or the structure or the direction it needs to move forward to feel really safe and secure. But then when you're overusing those parts of you, that part of you, and maybe you want to, you know your precious little Venus in cancer, right, and you want to like, use her to activate obviously she's in your 10th house like activate your business plan or how you nourish your relationships or just even the meeting the needs of her in relationships or business, instead of relying on logic like your moonsign needs, right, like it's just, it's a matter of like, finding that balance within our chart. So I think I answered your question yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:45

I really love this concept of looking at your chart and being like what is overactive, what is underactive? And I resonate a lot with your story because I have my Leo sun and my Mercury in the 12th house, so that feeling of like I want to be seen and I want to hide and I want to be seen don't look at me sure, and in my Saturn return, that was when I heard I was working in film.

Speaker 1: 17:11

So I was like behind the scenes, which is also very tough, right, but like I wasn't getting that Leo, fulfillment and satisfaction of like all my Gemini moon, of like creating and like having my voice heard and being seen and performing and expressing. And that's when I had my big burnout and I realized like performing and being seen as just like a basic need for me. It's something I've done my whole life, you know, in theater, and that's when I yeah, I like really leaned into that and my business just took off immediately, you know, and launching my own media platforms and, just, you know, talking and yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1: 17:46

I love that and, yeah, I didn't. I didn't know that you had your son conjunct Venus and I know obviously, relationships are a huge stone of genius for you. I recently everyone go and buy Elliot's um, he has a Venus course and she also has a Mercury course and they're so amazing breaking down all of the individual placements. Obviously, Obviously Mercury in communication like that's so important in relationships but also understanding your Venus and what your needs are and what the unique needs are of of the other person. So, okay, I want to know. I want to know, like, what are some helpful things that you can offer around that for people in business? You know, and thinking through, maybe communication with clients and social media or, like our Venus, the way people like to pay us, that turning up our magnetism, like what are some kind of like simple things that people could explore or lean into?

Speaker 2: 20:14

Yeah, I mean starting initially or starting first with Mercury, right, like Mercury does represent, obviously, communication. It represents the way in which we're processing information and receiving information as well. So it's, you know, when you think about relationships of any kind, even clients, it's like when there's miscommunication or when things aren't registering, there's a, there's a misfire, there's a, there's a mismatch happening, and it doesn't nobody's wrong for that. But when we look at it through the lens of astrology, we can kind of understand. I'm like oh, like some signs digest information more slowly and so you can't rapid fire things to them because it feels like it's overstimulating and it's it can be too much and they need time to absorb and sit down. So when you're trying to, like you know, say in a business session, like or content creation, you're firing off a bunch of different ideas to someone and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you kind of see them zone out like knowing what their mercury is is helpful, because then you can be like you need time, or I send it to you ahead of time in some way, and then you can digest it and then we can talk about it on the call. So it helps. You just kind like notice the, just the uniqueness of each individual.

Speaker 2: 21:27

And, honestly, what I've found because my husband and I have the Mercury course was inspired. I created it. I started creating it right before our wedding because it was like, inspired by like being in the fields of relationships and like here, my husband and I have very different ways of communicating. We have what's called a square in our charts when you put them together in the synastry, which can mean a lot of tension and miscommunication and yeah, that happens. But like, we know it and we know how to work with it and we actually use astrology as the language to kind of create that buffer for us of like we can laugh about it and we can be like yo, yo, you're in your Aries, or like yo, you're in your cancer, like, like, you're like my husband has a cancer moon too, and I'm like, okay, sweet cancer, like you're being, really, you're being so sensitive right now.

Speaker 2: 22:14

We get this, we see this and let me pull you out of your shell. So it's, it's fun, we use it. We've developed the language for it to like use it really playfully and use it in a way that is create safety and and and nurturance for us. But I created it right before the wedding and I started it and then the wedding. I didn't finish it and then it's okay. I finished it after the wedding, which was great because it was filled with so much more love, even from from that time of us getting married.

Speaker 2: 22:41

But it was born from wanting people to get that, even if, because there's so much of misinformation out there about there, especially around relationships and that, like you're not compatible with the sign if you have this or whatever, and I'm like, hey, you're so much more than just one place in your chart, like if we just looked at my husband and i's mercury, we're like, okay, we have so many other parts that balance that. And we never know a person's level of consciousness. Even when you do a reading for someone, you don't know somebody's consciousness, let alone like two people together, like how, how much has someone grown? Like how much has someone done the work and evolved to be able to meet, to be able to rise to that challenge or the opportunity for growth right? So in Mercury it's cool because it's it helps us bridge the gap in communication and help us helps us see someone's ability to receive and perceive information and the filter in which they're like seeing things through. So, like my Mercury in Cancer is much more sensitive and like protective and truthfully defensive about certain things my ideas, my beliefs, my mindset. And because it's also in the 12th house, I can get sucked into like thinking I'm going to take action but then not actually taking action. Like I'm like I think about this great idea but then I don't actually do it. It's a joke my husband and I have I'll say something out loud like I should shut the door, and then I don't do it. I just say but then he gets up and does it because his Mercury's in Aries, which is very much a doing sign. So he gets up, he's like I don't get it out and I'm like I'm just talking out loud Like I'll do it, but I'm just I'm acknowledging it.

Speaker 2: 24:23

And then, when it comes to Venus, the planet of love and attraction and beauty and wealth and creation, and where we get to express ourselves most creatively, that manifestation and business, and to use Venus through all of those lenses to be able to say this is how you can activate her, because she is and I say she in just the feminine way, not necessarily a gender way or not in a gendered way she is the planet that we look to when we need to turn her on, to turn up, and she is so suppressed in our society because and I think we're unlearning this we're seeing such a feminine movement lately where, like you know, feminine business, feminine results, feminine desires, instead of like the bro culture of hustle, and which is very Mars energy. It's very pursuant energy, like go, do, do, do, and we need a balance of both to manifest and to be in business, of course, but often Venus gets suppressed because it's our receiving, it's what we do, to kind of sip more, sit back and receive, not that, again, we don't put things in action to be able to receive, but it's such an energetic attunement to our Venus that says like, oh, when I'm in this energy, doing this thing or being this way, or expressing myself this way or opening my heart in this way, I'm finding that things are flowing more easily to me. Like when I manifested being on TV, I was like that was very my Venus is in Leo. I'm like such Leo energy of like I had been putting myself out there. I'd been getting like working with really high level people. You know, seven and eight figure people were in my world by that point and I was like just being willing to be really visible, being willing to be really creative, and how I was moving my business earlier in this year. And so it was no surprise to me that that confidence, that boldness, that those risks I was taking created opportunities that I would never fucking guess. Like landing on television, obviously, but like that I would be on a reality tv show as like as an astrology expert, so like it was.

Speaker 2: 26:48

It's fun to kind of look back at the moment when you're like kind of being in your natural energy, your natural flow, and that's what Venus is.

Speaker 2: 26:56

Venus is flow. It's it's very much like a, an embodiment energy, and so I created that course because I was like I want people to be able to access this at any point. Again, turn that on, turn that up. We have it in our chart. Fucking use it, be your Venus and see what happens. And it's been so fun. I've had so many people go through the course and love it and like talk about how, just even wearing the colors, that's relative to their Venus, or like waking up in them, or you know, we all have our specific Venus days, even like like attuning to the days of the week that were it's really important for you to like do your money dates or have your financial appreciation days or whatever, and watching that unlock opportunities for people has been super cool. I love that you grabbed it, and especially for you with Venus in the 10,000 and business and how you use it. Yeah, so perfect.

Speaker 1: 27:55

Yeah, no, I'm obsessed with this whole conversation and I love you know particularly, I've been an entrepreneur for 10 years now, like I've taken so many freaking courses, courses, and like I'm sure a lot of us are in that stage where you know, especially as Gemini Moon, I self-soothe through online education and I've never heard it put that I self-soothe through online education.

Speaker 2: 28:14

It's definitely my. I'm dying, it's so my weakness.

Speaker 1: 28:18

Yeah, I mean, I, I'm, I love it and I'm obsessed by it's, uh for sure, an addiction, and I think one of the challenges that we come up against is finding what's right for us. Right, I don't know? That's why a lot of people come to me, because I understand that, especially when we're creatives, you can't try and force a creative, like rebellious soul to do shit that they just don't want to do or that doesn't feel an integrity or doesn't feel in alignment, and so I love being able to use our charts as just, it's like a way of filtering and being like, oh, you know, these placements, these signs, these house placements can give us clues about maybe this type of activity is going to work better for me. When it comes to, like, embodiment and grounding and tapping into my flow, you know this is going to work for me. When, when it comes to like, embodiment and grounding and tapping into my flow, you know this is going to work for me. When I want to take action, this is going to work for me.

Speaker 1: 29:08

When I want to communicate, when I want to be seen, when I want to make money, and it's so empowering to have that as a place for, um, self-reflection and self-discovery.

Speaker 1: 29:18

And I love what you said about mercury and you know, again, this is what I've discovered in using astrology as a tool in business. I was like it's a way to understand other people, which, you know, if you want to be good in business, relationships are at the heart of everything, and so being able to understand your people, being able to accommodate different types of people, and just you know you have that shortcut and even just in understanding the varying expressions of how people communicate, how people digest information, to have that awareness so that you can, yeah, like, accommodate people in the way that you're teaching delivering, communicating. And you know, I love to look at the seventh house for my clients, because you know a lot of my work is focused on clients or my client attraction and just to have that reminder of. Also, you know, not everyone is for you. So really go deep on the people that you're most compatible with, that you're most compatible to serve, that you really you know your gifts are really compatible and really contribute so much value to them.

Speaker 1: 30:23

So yeah there's just so so much value to them. So, yeah, there's just so so much. It's nice to have a framework, you know. So we're not just playing the guessing game, we're not doing trial and error, we're not being like, well, why didn't this work? You know and I'm very jealous that your husband likes astrology, because my husband is kind of resistant to it. But I'm I'm slowly indoctrinating him, but he hates that I'm trying to brainwash him into astrology.

Speaker 2: 30:48

I don't know, I can't remember if we talked about this at the coffee shop sorry, pregnancy brain, but um, my brothers were the same way, like. They were literally like. My oldest was like do not talk to me about astrology, he was just very areas of him and I was like got it cool. This was like I don't know four or five years ago. I'm the first person they call when they start dating someone new oh, that's hilarious chart.

Speaker 2: 31:11

Can you look at our charts together? Like I'm I I'm not joking like and I'm like great, I love it. I you know it helps that, like all the dating apps have, like what your sign is now, because now they're like oh wait maybe my sister's onto something and and whatever.

Speaker 2: 31:23

But I say that because I'm like give it some time, because you never know. And this is, we should look at your husband's chart sometime too. But like I joke, first, we haven't done it in a long time actually, because I think it's just so part of us now. But my husband and I I plant seeds. I just like fucking plant seeds and I watch, I wait for like a year, year and a half, and then I watch them grow and it never comes from me. I'm never like I plant seeds Like I've buried the motherfucker.

Speaker 2: 31:55

It's in there, like the seed is planted and I'm like silently watering it, but it's somebody else's sunshine that comes along, that like grows it and all of a sudden he's like you're going to hate me for this, but now I get it and because they said it this way or this or this and this person's doing this, and I'm like I don't care how you got out there, just that you did that.

Speaker 2: 32:14

You did Like I was just holding the intention. I was like feeding it energetically that seed, you know. And so I feel like you know, depending on the chart, like there's opportunities for it to like work with people in certain ways, where it does require more subtlety, that like they don't like to be told what to do because they have a certain belief system or they have certain, you know, maybe a fixed mindset even, which we I'm not saying your husband does, but we can see in astrology too, when there's like more fixed energy and it doesn't allow for the fluidity like your chart has, um with being a rising and and and it's just yeah, it's just fascinating because, um, I think there's opportunity, but it does oh, no, 100.

Speaker 1: 32:55

But even even just having that knowledge and then being able to translate that into, like regular, oh, this is what it means, like I found that so empowering and knowing his chart and being like, oh, like, you want to communicate more in this way and I want to communicate more in this way, and being able to have those conversations based on that knowledge, without him ever even knowing that it was an astrology conversation that was just gonna say that, because that is the beautiful nuance of astrology when you know the language, and I had someone tell me earlier this year.

Speaker 2: 33:25

She was like it's like you're a parent that gives her children vegetables, but they don't know they're eating vegetables. You can weave in astrology without I'm not being like this is your sign, or your sign or this is what's happening in your chart. I'm just like like I can speak to it intuitively and you feel so validated and so acknowledged and you're like damn, how'd you know that? And I'm like low key over here, like because I know your chart. But there is the gift in doing that. But you can then later come back and be like great, have you noticed an improvement in this area? Have you noticed that this has made more sense for us? Or this has been working more smoothly, or even not more smoothly because I haven't been willing you know, I haven't been willing to, to, to, to tend to the needs of this in your chart or whatever, and like you can eventually bring that conversation in and be like, yeah, it's because I've been.

Speaker 2: 34:16

I've been using astrology. It's helped me support my um, my knowledge of you and you're so right. I mean, relationships are at the core of everything we do. And, yes, it's such a fucking shortcut and a hack for knowing who the fuck we are and when we live in a world of other people, knowing who other people are as well gives us such an advantage to again build more harmony and more peace and more connection and collaboration and just like, uh, just feel good, like, feel good. Right, we just want people to feel good.

Speaker 2: 34:50

And again, my leo always I'm sure yours says who keeps coming back to um, like we're so good, like our, our mission, our gift for the world is to make other people feel seen, is to share that spotlight on other people, and we love the spotlight they give us the fucking spotlight. But it's not about us going out and like kicking and screaming and getting our way there. It's through the work of sharing and shining that light on other people through whatever way, and for me it's like I love making people feel so seen through astrology that like that ultimate reflection comes back to me and like that's the gift of Leo and what we're here to do and we can do that. I mean astrology is such a fucking shortcut for that I love us.

Speaker 2: 35:33

I love us for it, I love the gifts that we get to bring others through it. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1: 35:38

And it's like you know I'm sure you're used to this, I'm used to this, everyone who's listening to this podcast is used to it Like when you're a trailblazer, when you're a revolutionary. There is just that lag time where you're talking and people are listening and they're either like uh, no, or they're just quiet and they're taking it in and they're digesting it and they're assimilating and they're getting used to it. And, yeah, maybe it's going to take a few years or like a few decades or who knows, until people really get the message that you're here to deliver and we just have to, you know, keep following our hearts, keep following our passion. Yeah, keep saying what we're here to say and, yeah, people will. It's here, you know. People will benefit when they're ready to benefit, when they're ready when they're ready.

Speaker 2: 36:21

But you know there's many. There's advantages to like having your finger on the pulse right, like, of course, because like we stay ahead of it a little bit. But also I really believe people are going to be catching up really soon, just with you know, next year we have I mean we have Pluto moving into Aquarius later this month or like in a week and a half, and then, you know, neptune and Saturn change signs next year too, and so, like there's just there's going to be more. Our minds have been opened with Neptune and Saturn and Pisces, and then, like we're ready for some more clarity and action when they move into Aries. So it'll be fun to like, yeah, it'll be fun to have more people behind us right as a trailblazer, to be like seeing the path and moving forward in the same way that we are, or at least people really aligning with what we've been visioning all along.

Speaker 1: 37:13

Yeah, it's super exciting. I could definitely see these trends Like. I mean, we live in Venice, so it's the air that we breathe. We're talking about astrology here, which I love, yeah, but yeah, that and and you know business and money empowerment for people like us to just be able to, you know, reach more people, have the impact that we're here to make, and astrology is such a power tool because, yeah, we have to understand ourselves first before we can more deeply understand others. So this has been such an epic conversation. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. Can you tell everybody? Where can they find you? What have you got going on?

Speaker 2: 37:48

yeah, thank you. Hey, thank you so much for inviting me on your podcast. This is I. Could, we could sit here, for fuck. We did it. We did it at the coffee shop. We sat for five hours and we jammed about astrology, so we could sit here forever, um, so I'll have to come back and we'll have to, like, keep continuing this conversation yeah, definitely so, yeah, definitely so fun.

Speaker 2: 38:02

So thank you for having me. I'm on Instagram at underscore Elliot Lee. I'm sure you can drop it in the show notes, but E-L-L-I-O-T-T-L-E-A, I have a website, elliotleecom, and you can. I just realized, though, my courses are not up there. My membership, my playground that I mentioned in the beginning. I called a playground because obviously I'm a Leo and I'm like look, come play. Like a membership sounds, it doesn't sound exciting enough for a Leo.

Speaker 2: 38:31

I love that, yeah, so I have my membership that you can find on my website to access that. And then I do have a couple of courses Like we talked about. I have astrology for relationships mercury is key and then the Venus magnetism, really turning the dial up on on love, business, um uh, manifestation and finances for you, and both of those are digital courses. They're all through a podcast feed which I fucking am obsessed with. My 12th house Mercury loves that, like it loves the behind the scenes of, like the podcasting format you know similar to what we're doing.

Speaker 2: 39:02

It's actually how I built. My membership, too is it's called Astro Musings, where I can just pick up the phone and just record something and muse about the different transits, about different things in people's chart, and it really I do like the live energy. Obviously I am Leo, but there is something about not being a cock block to that channel in the 12th house. So I, yeah, I have digital. They're all in podcast format, so in digital format, which is really fun, and you can find them on my Instagram page actually is where you can look for those. So, yeah, it's been so fun.

Speaker 1: 39:35

I have both of those courses I 100% recommend. Elliot is amazing, amazing, amazing. Definitely go check her out. Thank you so much for coming.

Speaker 2: 39:44

Yeah, I was actually going to say I just realized I have it's still free. It's not going to be free forever, but I have a free three-day course, um, or rather series on um, astrology and relationships as well where we go over three different places in your chart you and your partner's chart to kind of understand some of those needs even more better. That's free for now. Um, that came out earlier last month. Um, but it won't be free forever, so I don't know when this is going to be released, but, um, but you'll, you'll be able to grab it for a really a really um, uh, introductory price, basically. So thank you, sarah, for having me. This was so fun.

Speaker 1: 40:15

Yeah, thank you so much for coming. Everybody, please share this episode with anyone who you know would benefit, and we'll see you next week. Bye, bye. For more inspirational content, head over to my website with sarahmackcom and please support the show by liking, commenting and subscribing.